Earnings

Ciao's Favourite Member · Number of posts: 1075 Registration date: 2006-12-20

I don't doubt that some people can earn big time on the site, but that still doesn't mean the rating system is any cop (and Helium know this given the amount of carrots they've introduced to get people to rate) or effective (topics that I looked at last week are really not sorted by quality despite having articles that are months old) and if you think the majority are earning "a great deal of money" then you're, at the very least, mistaken.

I certainly don't think that the site is tailored for those that want to dip in from time to time and thevast majority of big money earners are on the site for a substantial amount of time each day.

You might be a success story on Helium, but to suggest that your earnings are the norm is misleading. Additionally, the earnings factor is only a small point in getting people interested in Helium. Having to wade through the clunky rating system and watching poor quality articles rise to the top of the pile while better ones sink is arguably more important. You'd have to be paying me a lot more than I'm getting from the site (or was getting from the site) to overlook these hugely annoying aspects.

Is the effort worth the reward (not just monetary)? For me (and people like Helen), the answer is definitely "no".

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dididave · Number of posts: 637 Registration date: 2006-03-01

Ciao's Favourite Member wrote:

I don't doubt that some people can earn big time on the site, but that still doesn't mean the rating system is any cop (and Helium know this given the amount of carrots they've introduced to get people to rate) or effective (topics that I looked at last week are really not sorted by quality despite having articles that are months old) and if you think the majority are earning "a great deal of money" then you're, at the very least, mistaken.

I certainly don't think that the site is tailored for those that want to dip in from time to time and thevast majority of big money earners are on the site for a substantial amount of time each day.

You might be a success story on Helium, but to suggest that your earnings are the norm is misleading.

I do think the emphasis on self-promotion via blogs, forums etc is all a bit bleurgh too. If you are super active then I have no doubt the site is set up for you, anyone with less time on their hands would struggle to make any amount of money. The featured article thing is also heavily flawed as it seems to just be the same group of members constantly and your rankings certainly bear no relation to your earnings!

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fizzywizzy · Number of posts: 728 Age: 37 Registration date: 2006-10-26

Only people who have added a photograph to their about me page can be featured writers so that's easy to achieve.

And really you don't need to be that active. As I said already, your articles keep earning forever unlike Dooyoo and Ciao where they die pretty quickly.

I've only recently become more active and I've earned several hundred dollars.

dididave · Number of posts: 637 Registration date: 2006-03-01

fizzywizzy wrote:

Only people who have added a photograph to their about me page can be featured writers so that's easy to achieve.

And really you don't need to be that active. As I said already, your articles keep earning forever unlike Dooyoo and Ciao where they die pretty quickly.

I've only recently become more active and I've earned several hundred dollars.

Genuinely interested to know what you had to do to earn that sort of money. I have been a member for a while, have fourteen articles up yet have not even come close to cashing out. Is it more about huge volumes of work then? My reviews are ranked highly.

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fizzywizzy · Number of posts: 728 Age: 37 Registration date: 2006-10-26

I have about 250 articles posted, ranked high, middle, bottom. Oddly, some of the lower ones have done quite well earnings-wise.

My top earning article is about what you can/can't take your hand luggage on a plane. I guess it keeps earning because its something people use the net to check quite a lot.

Other high paying ones are so diverse you can't account for why they are biggies - the history of the rocking chair, how to look after opals, what you need to know before climbing Everest, the history of Russian ballet.

I have links on other sites to only a couple of my articles so that's not how I do it. It is just writing articles on topics people want to read about. And choosing good keywords helps too

dididave · Number of posts: 637 Registration date: 2006-03-01

fizzywizzy wrote:

I have about 250 articles posted, ranked high, middle, bottom. Oddly, some of the lower ones have done quite well earnings-wise.

My top earning article is about what you can/can't take your hand luggage on a plane. I guess it keeps earning because its something people use the net to check quite a lot.

Other high paying ones are so diverse you can't account for why they are biggies - the history of the rocking chair, how to look after opals, what you need to know before climbing Everest, the history of Russian ballet.

I have links on other sites to only a couple of my articles so that's not how I do it. It is just writing articles on topics people want to read about. And choosing good keywords helps too

250! No wonder then, I might have to cross post a couple more then.

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fizzywizzy · Number of posts: 728 Age: 37 Registration date: 2006-10-26

dididave wrote:

fizzywizzy wrote:

I have about 250 articles posted, ranked high, middle, bottom. Oddly, some of the lower ones have done quite well earnings-wise.

My top earning article is about what you can/can't take your hand luggage on a plane. I guess it keeps earning because its something people use the net to check quite a lot.

Other high paying ones are so diverse you can't account for why they are biggies - the history of the rocking chair, how to look after opals, what you need to know before climbing Everest, the history of Russian ballet.

I have links on other sites to only a couple of my articles so that's not how I do it. It is just writing articles on topics people want to read about. And choosing good keywords helps too

250! No wonder then, I might have to cross post a couple more then.

But many are cross posted or slightly adapted from Dooyoo and Ciao articles.

In fact I have been able to make a couple of articles by adapting some of my lengthier travel ops - for example, splitting it into the public transport, the activities and/or the accommodation options in a given city or resort.

dididave · Number of posts: 637 Registration date: 2006-03-01

fizzywizzy wrote:

dididave wrote:

fizzywizzy wrote:

I have about 250 articles posted, ranked high, middle, bottom. Oddly, some of the lower ones have done quite well earnings-wise.

My top earning article is about what you can/can't take your hand luggage on a plane. I guess it keeps earning because its something people use the net to check quite a lot.

Other high paying ones are so diverse you can't account for why they are biggies - the history of the rocking chair, how to look after opals, what you need to know before climbing Everest, the history of Russian ballet.

I have links on other sites to only a couple of my articles so that's not how I do it. It is just writing articles on topics people want to read about. And choosing good keywords helps too

250! No wonder then, I might have to cross post a couple more then.

But many are cross posted or slightly adapted from Dooyoo and Ciao articles.

In fact I have been able to make a couple of articles by adapting some of my lengthier travel ops - for example, splitting it into the public transport, the activities and/or the accommodation options in a given city or resort.

Might try that although I only have two MASSIVE travel ops on Disneyland Florida and Seaworld

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Thingywhatsit · Subject: Re: Earnings Tue 19 Feb 2008, 16:31

I think the point that the two of us is making about earnings is that the potential is there. Many review writers are used to not posting more than a couple of reviews a week, which is fine on their chosen sites, but and it is a big but, if they choose to post all their articles to Helium in one day, then they are quite entitled to.

The rating system is getting much more efficient and there are all kinds of things going on to ensure that this is the case.

dididave · Number of posts: 637 Registration date: 2006-03-01

Thingywhatsit wrote:

I think the point that the two of us is making about earnings is that the potential is there. Many review writers are used to not posting more than a couple of reviews a week, which is fine on their chosen sites, but and it is a big but, if they choose to post all their articles to Helium in one day, then they are quite entitled to.

The rating system is getting much more efficient and there are all kinds of things going on to ensure that this is the case.

So Rachel, as someone in the know, what are they do about the continued poor categorisation when you are trying to rate? Meaning why do I get constant review about beauty and make-up when I wrote one review on a man's razor? I don't think anyone has ever argued that Helium has not got potential but the progress has been very slow to the casual observer and negative in some cases.

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Thingywhatsit · Subject: Re: Earnings Tue 19 Feb 2008, 17:10

I would try to expand the areas that I write in given circumstances such as yours. Since contributing to almost every area, the cross section of articles that I rate is amazing and so much different from what it was in the old days when the site was beginning.

Extend your collection of reviews to other areas and you automatically extend your rating area.

dididave · Number of posts: 637 Registration date: 2006-03-01

Thingywhatsit wrote:

I would try to expand the areas that I write in given circumstances such as yours. Since contributing to almost every area, the cross section of articles that I rate is amazing and so much different from what it was in the old days when the site was beginning.

Extend your collection of reviews to other areas and you automatically extend your rating area.

Thanks, will try and let you know how I get on. I have written in everything on dooyoo pretty much so it should not be a problem.

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Thingywhatsit · Subject: Re: Earnings Tue 19 Feb 2008, 18:47

Then do post them over. If you have trouble finding any of the categories, let me know and I shall tell you which channel and how to word your title.

WendyBull · Number of posts: 2028 Age: 37 Registration date: 2006-04-04

I might give a few more of mine a new airing over there if I get a chance. x

Persephone · Subject: Re: Earnings Wed 12 Mar 2008, 19:59

I forgot I still remembered my account here! Hope everyone is well.

Had been away from helium for a while due to continual internet probs and moving. I like the new rating options however I am still confused by many things such as how does one know which key words are being used for a topic and if those keywords are being successful? I still struggle to find the right keywords to use for myself....

With the introduction of the star stuff, now that I have internet connx and have been rating an hour every other day - I had three stars last week and then yesterday it went down to two. I find that unexplainable. I have emailed but no explainable answer has been received.

However my earnings have gone up a bit but I doubt I will be able to post over 200 articles this year. I am thrilled to have earned what I have but can't yet pay the month rent on it!

Anyway, glad to see you all are still here.

seph