Guide Vacancies

Thought I would start this as the other two guide threads have got rather complicated and involved. Currently there are vacancies for guide positions in

Food
Sports
Speakers Corner
Services
Books - co-guide position
Shopping - new co-guide position
Computers

Even if you are not keen on any of these but fancy something else put yourself forward as many guides are covering more than one category at the moment so new members prepared to help out would be appreciated.

If interesed just drop Dooyoo a line via the member page or to teamDooyoo.

Not Software, just Computers.

well done Richard for summarising that, even I was getting confused!

Any movement on the appointment of new Guides yet? Here we are nearly at the end of January, and it would appear that one of my own favourite Categories (Sports) still remains without a Guide.
Why isn't there an announcement on the Community Page yet informing members of the vacancies, and asking people to apply?

Nope although it appears Jared is now back in the office after being pretty much off since the New Year, guess he will look at it once crowns and abuse has been sorted.

On the plus side Ken now guides have a badge under their picture

atticusuk wrote:

On the plus side Ken now guides have a badge under their picture

Ahhh....That's OK then....That'll solve all the problems!....Nothing beats a nice wee badge (Heh, heh)....Ken

Perhaps spending some time finding some new Guides for the vacant Categories would be more productive than giving new members and existing Guides lovely wee shiny badges. (Just a thought)

I must admit I thought they would be a bit more prominent in their search by now - knowing how hard it is to find new guides previously.

I imagine it is not the same person that put a little orange strip at the bottom of guide photos and new member photos as the person who has spent time hunting down guides (many of whom HAVEN'T accepted - presumably as they don't want to commit time!!)

I think the new payment system and the fallout from that has made the guide role appear unappealing right now. Don't blame them, really. Though, don't they realise we're carving up the Crowns between us?

Ciao's Favourite Member wrote:

I think the new payment system and the fallout from that has made the guide role appear unappealing right now. Don't blame them, really. Though, don't they realise we're carving up the Crowns between us?

Hence the reason I would only suggest unsuitable members to be guides, meaning less guides to share out the crown allocation amongst.

Now the 7th February, and STILL no signs of any new Guides being appointed for currently vacant categories, or any sign of the posts being advertised by dooyoo on the site.

Can any current Guides throw any further light on any developments? (If any!)

Nope heard nothing.

atticusuk wrote:

Nope heard nothing.

Likewise and it is not for want of asking

kenjohn wrote:

Now the 7th February, and STILL no signs of any new Guides being appointed for currently vacant categories, or any sign of the posts being advertised by dooyoo on the site.

Can any current Guides throw any further light on any developments? (If any!)

I've spoken to a number of members who've been approached, all of whom have said they won't do it. They've cited it as a thankless task, and can't be doing with the grief that goes with the territory these days.

I quote:

"I don't want to be regularly accused of being a liar / self-interested / corrupt. (delete as applicable)"

Sounds to me like dooyoo need to find some appropriate way to reward their guides. At trivago - the site where I spend most of my time - approving other people's work carries more payment than actually doing the work!

plipplop wrote:

kenjohn wrote:

Now the 7th February, and STILL no signs of any new Guides being appointed for currently vacant categories, or any sign of the posts being advertised by dooyoo on the site.

Can any current Guides throw any further light on any developments? (If any!)

I've spoken to a number of members who've been approached, all of whom have said they won't do it. They've cited it as a thankless task, and can't be doing with the grief that goes with the territory these days.

I quote:

"I don't want to be regularly accused of being a liar / self-interested / corrupt. (delete as applicable)"

Says it all really, still lack of guides has an impact on all members not just those who sling the mud but then you only have to read any comment or review on the site or on message boards having a pop at the guide members or system to see lots of members agreeing with the comments.

Little surprise that many do not want the hassle.

In most cases, it's almost as if the stuff about guides has become an accepted truth and having Evil Phil run around spouting the usual (and mostly incorrect) bollocks on the site over the years without intervention from the powers that be isn't helping matters either.

Maybe that's also why the number of members asking guides for help is dropping/near zero?

Ciao's Favourite Member wrote:

In most cases, it's almost as if the stuff about guides has become an accepted truth and having Evil Phil run around spouting the usual (and mostly incorrect) bollocks on the site over the years without intervention from the powers that be isn't helping matters either.

Maybe that's also why the number of members asking guides for help is dropping/near zero?

The reality is that it isn't really just one member who could do the damage. Collectively, questions around objectivity, bias etc etc are prevalent on both these message boards and Dooyoo, with an overall expectation (and it's probably accurate) that as a guide, you will get a lot of grief. I don't imagine that this could be addressed, to be honest, but the naysayers are ultimately the ones undoing the site.

That being said, I do still get asked for help and generally, I manage to get things sorted out for people.

I can't totally agree. Personally I feel there are plenty of members who'd still be prepared to take on a Guiding role, only they don't realise there are current vacancies as they're not advertised.

As for folks moaning about Guides. Ah, you poor wee souls...Everybody picking on you. It's always been that way ever since the Guide roles were instigated...nothing different. Folks just like having a pop at "authority" figures, that's all. If you can't stand the heat, etc, etc.

kenjohn wrote:

I can't totally agree. Personally I feel there are plenty of members who'd still be prepared to take on a Guiding role, only they don't realise there are current vacancies as they're not advertised.

As for folks moaning about Guides. Ah, you poor wee souls...Everybody picking on you. It's always been that way ever since the Guide roles were instigated...nothing different. Folks just like having a pop at "authority" figures, that's all. If you can't stand the heat, etc, etc.

OK, maybe need to re-position what I said in fear of misinterpretation.

You asked what was happening on the guide front. General answer was nothing. I added that I know Dooyoo are having real trouble getting people to sign up and explained why. This was really only intended to offer some constructive thinking around the situation. I certainly wasn't complaining. Personally, I'm really quite happy as a guide and any such allegations fall on deaf / disinterested ears. I think that such accusations say 100 times more about the people making them, than they do the people being accused. Fortunately, the powers that be at Dooyoo seem to agree.

You're right - guides always have been the subject of criticism, and almost certainly always will be. I suspect the silence from Dooyoo is from them reconsidering the whole role / process, as they are aware that nobody wants to do it and they also realise that no guides = no crowns for anyone = no happy campers (more or less).

It would be really good if all these people who are willing to be a guide would step forward. Although the roles aren't advertised specifically by Dooyoo, there is plenty of publicity here and on the site, with lots of discussion around the current vacancies. I'm sure that if there are lots of willing volunteers, then the roles will be filled very soon, bringing smiles and satisfaction all round. You'll forgive me for being dubious in the meantime, however, as I continue to cover three categories (considering a temporary fourth to try and plug another gap) in the face of no interest from anyone wanting to take on the role.

plipplop wrote:

You're right - guides always have been the subject of criticism, and almost certainly always will be. I suspect the silence from Dooyoo is from them reconsidering the whole role / process, as they are aware that nobody wants to do it and they also realise that no guides = no crowns for anyone = no happy campers (more or less).

Personally I think it's past time the role of a Guide was overhauled somewhat, or dropped altogether. I'd be happy enough seeing the end of Category Guides, but only if some other method can be found to ensure some sort of continuity at the site in regard to abuse, Crowns, etc.
Maybe, as koshka suggested, it may be time to reward Guides in some fashion in order to make the role more attractive to more members. (Just a thought)

kenjohn wrote:

plipplop wrote:

You're right - guides always have been the subject of criticism, and almost certainly always will be. I suspect the silence from Dooyoo is from them reconsidering the whole role / process, as they are aware that nobody wants to do it and they also realise that no guides = no crowns for anyone = no happy campers (more or less).

Personally I think it's past time the role of a Guide was overhauled somewhat, or dropped altogether. I'd be happy enough seeing the end of Category Guides, but only if some other method can be found to ensure some sort of continuity at the site in regard to abuse, Crowns, etc.
Maybe, as koshka suggested, it may be time to reward Guides in some fashion in order to make the role more attractive to more members. (Just a thought)

But the reward comes in carving up the crowns, does no one listen to Phil surely that should result in a stampede to be guides the lure of an extra £1.50 each week.

Personally all the flack is part of the fun as it is usually given by people whose opinions I rate just below my view of estate agents and dog *Bad Word*.

plipplop wrote:

The reality is that it isn't really just one member who could do the damage. Collectively, questions around objectivity, bias etc etc are prevalent on both these message boards and Dooyoo, with an overall expectation (and it's probably accurate) that as a guide, you will get a lot of grief. I don't imagine that this could be addressed, to be honest, but the naysayers are ultimately the ones undoing the site.

That being said, I do still get asked for help and generally, I manage to get things sorted out for people.

No, I agree with you completely. I used Phil merely as an example, and yes, he's not the only one, just the most prominent on Dooyoo. I don't mind the questions about objectivity or bias and will gladly answer any reasonable questions that are posed to me, but by the same token the absolute *Bad word* spouted by Phil and some others is giving off a false impression of the guides, IMO. Additionally, people on the site are just taking what's said about guides at face value, so anything that's mentioned about the guides (no matter how major or positive/negative the incident is) gets ingrained in the community, even if they don't actually take it seriously. That it's been happening on the site over the years just means that it's impossible to get back to anything realistic and when guides are looked for, no-one wants take it up because *Bad word* are spouting tosh about them simply for taking a role on the website.

Still, if Dooyoo ever gets around to advertising for more guides, perhaps we'll see some newer members step up.

Raised this again on the guide forum to ask about progress in filling vacancies.