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Thingywhatsit Admin
Number of posts : 5842 Age : 72 Registration date : 2006-02-12
| Subject: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 15:00 | |
| Would you list ingredients in a beauty review other than to warn of possible allergic reactions ? or animal tested things that are worthy of mention to people who want "green" items ? | |
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spoilt_little_brat
Number of posts : 1427 Age : 38 Location : Conisbrough nr Doncaster Registration date : 2006-02-28
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 15:03 | |
| If there is a 'special' ingredient in a product then yes, mention it. But to be honest beauty reviews that list everysingle little thing really bug me and I tend to turn off. | |
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helencbradshaw
Number of posts : 1982 Age : 56 Location : Here, There and Everywhere, but usually in a hotel somewhere Registration date : 2006-03-18
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 15:04 | |
| I would take the approach as I would with food.
Lists are a definite no no imho.
I would put the ingredients in context. For example a short sentence stating that the product only contains certain natural items. I would also want to know if a product tries to market to our "green" sides, but in fact is just as toxic as the rest of the crap available in the toiletries counter.
I don't particularly have allergic reactions, therefore I could not comment on that. Equally it is pointless listing a whole pile of chemicals that most people dont understand anyway! | |
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Jill Murphy
Number of posts : 179 Registration date : 2006-03-07
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 17:44 | |
| It's no different to any other category.
Lists for lists sakes are a no-no. Making points about a series of ingredients is a good thing.
In beauty products, particularly, there is a great deal of room for discussing what goes into them. | |
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Angus
Number of posts : 1970 Age : 59 Location : Bournemouth Registration date : 2006-03-20
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:06 | |
| When you make a cosmetic product, you must list the ingredients before labeling it for everyone to see. That is the law.
when reviewing a beauty product, it is up to the individual what they put in a review as a review is a personal thing and should show the things that the person writing the review wants to show.
When I read a food review, I skip the ingredients unles I am reading a recipe. When I look at a cosmetic review for myself, I tend to skip the additves and stuff as I have no allergies.
As my roles on Dooyoo is to "GUIDE" a section, I will make it known what I feel is right and allow the writer to accpet it or not accept it, which is there perogative.
As regards crowning a review, that is up to Dooyoo and I have sent reviews to be considered for crowns which I have rated U as I feel they may be useful to others if not to me.
I do not see what the problem is having a list of ingredients when it comes to reviewing a product that may cause irritation or allergy, but then I guess you could say that all public access bussiness should have a write up on disabled facilities even if you are not disabled. So one argument defeats another.
As a "GUIDE" I will be open to anyone who can persuade me that a lsit of ingredients is not essential, if they want to or if they can be arsed to, but in reality it is just something I like to see in reviews as I have a vested interest in the subject and possibly a lot more expereince than a person who does not make the products, so we will have to agree to disagree on this one.
At the end of the day though, it is ONLY MY OPINION and not a steadfast rule. | |
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Thingywhatsit Admin
Number of posts : 5842 Age : 72 Registration date : 2006-02-12
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:14 | |
| AQUA HYDROGEN PEROXIDE (IMPORTANT) ACRYLATES COPOLYMER ETIDRONIC ACID SODIUM LAUREST SULPHATE DICARBOXYPYRIDINE DISODIUM PYROPHOSPHATE COCONUT ALCOHOL PROPEYLENE GLYCOL OLEIC ACID ETHANOLELAMINE CETEARTH-50 LAURETH-2 ARGININE POLQUARTERNIUM-22, DISODIUM COCOAMPHODIPROPIONATE ASCORBIC ACID SODIUM SULFITE
That's only half the ingredients. I am with Jill and Sirg here that it isn't necessary to list all ingredients but that the effects of ones that make a difference to our use or are possibly harmful are. | |
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lisa2062
Number of posts : 2129 Age : 41 Location : Dorset Registration date : 2006-03-17
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:16 | |
| I suppose if one wanted to put in a paragraph of the ingredients, then they could put it right at the end of a review. I personally think that as long as you mention things like contains lanolin, almond oil (Well known irritants), as well as contains vitamin E (a known moisturizer) then that is enough. I do however appreciate that others would like to know everything, but have you taken a look at some of the products lists at there? It's nearly as long as the bible! Lisa x | |
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Angus
Number of posts : 1970 Age : 59 Location : Bournemouth Registration date : 2006-03-20
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:21 | |
| - Thingywhatsit wrote:
- AQUA water!
HYDROGEN PEROXIDE (IMPORTANT) Can cause major skin irritant
SODIUM LAUREST SULPHATE Allergy
COCONUT ALCOHOL Allergy
ASCORBIC ACID Skin irritant
SODIUM SULFITE Allergy And there is my side of the argument. | |
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Thingywhatsit Admin
Number of posts : 5842 Age : 72 Registration date : 2006-02-12
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:23 | |
| I shall make do with H ratings then at best with beauty reviews then cos as I said that was only half and if I put the lot, I would get accused of padding the review with unecessary crap. | |
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Angus
Number of posts : 1970 Age : 59 Location : Bournemouth Registration date : 2006-03-20
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:24 | |
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Thingywhatsit Admin
Number of posts : 5842 Age : 72 Registration date : 2006-02-12
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:25 | |
| You're the guide mate. Rate as you see fit. | |
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Angus
Number of posts : 1970 Age : 59 Location : Bournemouth Registration date : 2006-03-20
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:27 | |
| - Thingywhatsit wrote:
- You're the guide mate. Rate as you see fit.
My rating has nothing to do with my role as a guide. What I want froma review is the same now as it always was and the guides role is something I intend to do with the backing of anyone who wants me to. Like I said, if someone wants to convince me to change my rate as it means that much to them, then let them. If we were not so hung up on ratings, would it be an issue? | |
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lisa2062
Number of posts : 2129 Age : 41 Location : Dorset Registration date : 2006-03-17
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:29 | |
| I also think that if people listed every single ingredient, that people would think you were just padding it out. If a person is prone to allergies from beauty products, then they should only be buying products for sensitve skin/ Hypoallergenic. Although I do know that this can sometimes iritate people. Lisa x | |
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Thingywhatsit Admin
Number of posts : 5842 Age : 72 Registration date : 2006-02-12
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:30 | |
| It's not your position as guide that matters here. It's what you expect to find in a beauty review and why. Making it clear helps members to produce reviews that you feel are worthy of better ratings. I think beauty is a really hard area anyway and write very few, but I can see the dangers of huge lists of ingredients being spouted that actually fill the word allocation, to no benefit. | |
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lisa2062
Number of posts : 2129 Age : 41 Location : Dorset Registration date : 2006-03-17
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:32 | |
| At the end of the day, I personally wouldn't want to read a list of 50 or more ingredients! I just want to know the main, well known iritants plus any beauty benefits. Lisa x | |
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Angus
Number of posts : 1970 Age : 59 Location : Bournemouth Registration date : 2006-03-20
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:34 | |
| - Thingywhatsit wrote:
- It's not your position as guide that matters here. It's what you expect to find in a beauty review and why. Making it clear helps members to produce reviews that you feel are worthy of better ratings. I think beauty is a really hard area anyway and write very few, but I can see the dangers of huge lists of ingredients being spouted that actually fill the word allocation, to no benefit.
But you said, "you're the guide. rate as you see fit!" rachel, play fair. It is not an issues either way is it? What is relevant to em is not to others and that is my point. If I saw a review on pure Cocoa Butter soap then I would not expect a list of; Cocoa butter Why is having a list on a review such an issue? | |
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Thingywhatsit Admin
Number of posts : 5842 Age : 72 Registration date : 2006-02-12
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:36 | |
| It has nothing to do with you as a personality. Nothing personal at all. I see the beauty area going the same way as the food area did on ciao, where lists were bigger than the review. Whatever popular belief that a review should contain this or should contain that, I write in my own style and that's the way it is, but I see the danger of people reading postings saying that they will not receive good ratings without a list of ingredients and adding them for the sake of a nomination, which is rather silly. | |
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Jill Murphy
Number of posts : 179 Registration date : 2006-03-07
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:37 | |
| I like what Angus is saying about the difference between his rating and his role as guide. If only all guides, past and present, cos I don't mean anyone in particular, were so clear-sighted about it all. | |
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Thingywhatsit Admin
Number of posts : 5842 Age : 72 Registration date : 2006-02-12
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:38 | |
| - Quote :
- I like what Angus is saying about the difference between his rating and his role as guide. If only all guides, past and present, cos I don't mean anyone in particular, were so clear-sighted about it all.
Yeh so do I, but I still don't like lists of ingredients. | |
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lisa2062
Number of posts : 2129 Age : 41 Location : Dorset Registration date : 2006-03-17
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:39 | |
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Thingywhatsit Admin
Number of posts : 5842 Age : 72 Registration date : 2006-02-12
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:39 | |
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lisa2062
Number of posts : 2129 Age : 41 Location : Dorset Registration date : 2006-03-17
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:41 | |
| Whats got you laughing? Some people just use ingredients as a way of padding, instead of giving us their actual opinion of it, and ease of use e.t.c. Lisa x | |
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Thingywhatsit Admin
Number of posts : 5842 Age : 72 Registration date : 2006-02-12
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:42 | |
| I laughed cos we sounded like girls ganging up on poor angus ! | |
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lisa2062
Number of posts : 2129 Age : 41 Location : Dorset Registration date : 2006-03-17
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:43 | |
| We are mean aren't we? Lisa x | |
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Thingywhatsit Admin
Number of posts : 5842 Age : 72 Registration date : 2006-02-12
| Subject: Re: INGREDIENTS IN BEAUTY REVIEWS. Sat 22 Jul 2006, 18:44 | |
| Not really. I may yet pursuade him by posting a review on here with the full ingredients to show how silly it would look and how unecessary. | |
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