SUGGESTIONS TO IMPROVE DOOYOO.

Do you have any suggestions to improve the dooyoo experience. Be serious please and if you have anything you think would improve dooyoo, please place it here, so Alex gets feedback from members.

Thingywhatsit wrote:

Do you have any suggestions to improve the dooyoo experience. Be serious please and if you have anything you think would improve dooyoo, please place it here, so Alex gets feedback from members.

You see because you asked people to be serious no one has contributed.

Give them time.

banana hammock....he's right you know.

I have only just started looking at Dooyoo again after a three year absence - and that in part because of CIAO's recent database hiccup. I have to say that the thing that concerns me most about dooyoo is its very patchy and often hopelessly out of date database of products and items. In the last half an hour I looked at ten potential subjects for reviews (in hotels and in DVDs) and five were not listed. Of the other four hotels two were very old entries which were not up to date (hotel name changes, MAJOR redevelopments on site) and two were assigned to the wrong hotel chain. I have suggested one of the missing hotels and it is now number 1149 in the suggestion list.

I have to say that since my earlier experience with CIAO at least their management of the database has been efficient. ALL the above hotels were correctly identified and the DVDs to date have appeared on their lists. I wrote a review of the Hyatt in Belgium which won a diamond a couple of years ago. The review has now been archived as quite correctly that particular hotel was taken over by another chain. CIAO has recognised this, dooyoo hasn't. In the last month I have suggested four new prodcuts to CIAO and they have all been added within 36 hours.

It does make me wonder what the business model behind dooyoo is. It clearly leaves a lot to be desired.

Cheers - Alan

Okay Alan, you haven't looked closely enough. Try typing the name of the product into google followed by the word dooyoo. If that does not show up the right place for the review, then go into your page suggestion area and suggest it. You will need a photograph, and if you do not have a link (i.e. not website based) simply use the dooyoo addy in the first box as written above it.

Get submitting because all your reviews help the database grow. Better to add new stuff than to say there is nothing there as now they have given us the possibility of adding things, the database is getting larger. Plus you get paid I believe for each one accepted but they do expect you to write on it and not suggest willy nilly.

Hi, my main point here is trying to correct areas of the dooyoo database which are hopelessly out of date or just plain wrong.
A case in point: In 1999 there was a hotel in San Diego called the Hyatt Regency San Diego which had one 40 storey tower (this is the picture and header in the dooyoo database). In 2003 the name was changed to the Manchester Grand Hyatt Hotel when its second 32 storey tower was opened. (My specialist subject is The Hotels of The Hyatt!!)
At least if you are going to offer recommendations on items they need to be accurate for the searching public.
Alan

Might be an idea to contact the guide in that particular area and inform them of out of date items, so they can contact dooyoo to have them removed

I worked until a few weeks ago, for a huge hotel chain and both sites are hopelessly out of date!

I must admit, some of the pc hardware seems very out of date and if you suggest them they just disappear, wendybull asked dooyoo and they said all computer products disappear as they those products get updated automatically!

I think that you will find that the guy there is very on the ball and that things will be added quickly.

Pay more money, bit obvious isnt it

Newfloridian wrote:

Hi, my main point here is trying to correct areas of the dooyoo database which are hopelessly out of date or just plain wrong.
A case in point: In 1999 there was a hotel in San Diego called the Hyatt Regency San Diego which had one 40 storey tower (this is the picture and header in the dooyoo database). In 2003 the name was changed to the Manchester Grand Hyatt Hotel when its second 32 storey tower was opened. (My specialist subject is The Hotels of The Hyatt!!)
At least if you are going to offer recommendations on items they need to be accurate for the searching public.
Alan

If no one tells them, they will never know.

With the example I gave above, if I had searched for the Hyatt Grand Manchester before I booked the one site which would not have appeared would have been dooyoo.

Database management is Dooyoo's responsibility NOT those of contributors. The validity and currency of the database is the prime attraction to end users using the site and therefore earnng dooyoo money. This has nothing to do with the activities of the members.

Whilst I agree to a certain extent, I do feel that members should have input and the guided system gives them more input than an unguided site like ciao. In any areas of concern, dooyoo can be contacted through the appropriate guide and do seem open to suggestion.

Several people have said that they will continue to write short reviews with little information in them because they have no incentive to write better quality ones.

I can see where they're coming from - I mean, we all get the same 3p per read. For a crowned review, I get an extra £1.50, but it doesn't a make a difference to how many people read my review than normal.

I realise that introducing some sort of extra incentive might prove costly for the site, so what about a deterrent? E.g. submitting more than 2 reviews an hour is disabled, get 10 consecutive overall SU ratings and all of your new reviews stop appearing on the new reviews page for a limited length of time, you only get paid for a rating, not for a read, and NUs net you 0p...

These are just very rough ideas off the top of my head. But I'm sure with a little planning, it would be possible to do something positive.

Good suggestions and nice to see people thinking about dooyoo and coming up with constructive comment. I think with me the standard of my reviews matters to me enough to not care whether I get the same as someone who perhaps doesn't merit it. As long as I do my best, then that's good with me. The SU reviews and people that are apathetic about what they write - that's their problem and their way of looking at things, but can it really be satisfying, even if you are earning good money, to have a page full of SU reviews ?

sy2kgbr wrote:

Several people have said that they will continue to write short reviews with little information in them because they have no incentive to write better quality ones.

I can see where they're coming from - I mean, we all get the same 3p per read. For a crowned review, I get an extra £1.50, but it doesn't a make a difference to how many people read my review than normal.

I realise that introducing some sort of extra incentive might prove costly for the site, so what about a deterrent? E.g. submitting more than 2 reviews an hour is disabled, get 10 consecutive overall SU ratings and all of your new reviews stop appearing on the new reviews page for a limited length of time, you only get paid for a rating, not for a read, and NUs net you 0p...

These are just very rough ideas off the top of my head. But I'm sure with a little planning, it would be possible to do something positive.

But SU ratings are not an issue in themselves. Dooyoo do not mind SU reviews being on site as they do contain some useful information. As far as dooyoo are concerned they would rather have ten SU reviews in a category than none at all. The problem is that people do not NU enough for me. I would agree with NU's netting you nothing but this tends to be the case anwyay as NU reviews are usually deleted. I would go for the inability to submit more than two new reviews but I would actually limit it to one per day.

Personally I'd find it a bit distressing, but I don't think a lot of people care! To be honest, 3p a read isn't a quick moneymaking scheme, so you'd think they'd have to care a bit about writing too.

I made the above suggestions because I have seen some users write really helpful reviews that get loads of VU ratings, then get bumped off the top page in their chosen category by SU reviews written 2 minutes later and I don't think it's fair on them. (And I am talking about other people, haven't noticed it happening to myself yet. )

Not only does it mean that the good reviews are less likely to get read and therefore mean the good writers lose out, but the people looking for good advice will see a category full of SUs and not bother going to the next page to see if there's anything better available.

I think if you read regularly you don't miss reviews jumping out of the lists like you do on ciao, but I see what you are saying. I always suggest ways that people can improve SU or below reviews, and that's all we can do really.

(PS., I am quite happy with Dooyoo really, I hope I'm not coming across as a grumpy unhappy user. )

No not at all. Any constructive comment is useful. One thing that dooyoo seem to have weighed up is site abuse. By keeping all the ratings paying, they do not have to employ a team to deal with site abuse as ciao do. There are less arguments and certainly less friction.

Dooyoo reviews dont get bumped on their rate though - thats a Ciao thing. Dooyoo go in date order, most recent at the top...