Reads Down

Well, it would appear that the "new regime" of quantity over quality is now really starting to kick in and affect the number of member reads as people come to the realisation that it's way more profitable to spend their time writing new short reviews (at 50p a pop) than to be bothered reading and rating other members' reviews in the hope of a return read.

My own reads per review are way down in comparison to when the old payment system was in force, despite the fact I haven't decreased my own reading and rating. (In fact, probably the opposite)

A sign of things to come. (Not good things though, IMHO)

Yes, but didn't you admit elsewhere that you are writing a lot more reviews? So are your total reads down relative to when you were writing less?

Mine are up which is weird as I seem to be the only one who is!

dididave wrote:

Mine are up which is weird as I seem to be the only one who is!

My reads were initially a wee bit higher at the start up of the new system, but are lower now. Mind you, I'm posting far more reviews, so that obviously has a bearing as well.

koshkha wrote:

Yes, but didn't you admit elsewhere that you are writing a lot more reviews? So are your total reads down relative to when you were writing less?

Oh no, by no means. I've earned an absolute fortune in Amazon vouchers since the new system was introduced, and my total number of reads is obviously a lot higher as I posted more new reviews in January than in the whole of 2007!

But my point of "quantity over quality" being the new dooyoo byword still stands.

kenjohn wrote:

koshkha wrote:

Yes, but didn't you admit elsewhere that you are writing a lot more reviews? So are your total reads down relative to when you were writing less?

Oh no, by no means. I've earned an absolute fortune in Amazon vouchers since the new system was introduced, and my total number of reads is obviously a lot higher as I posted more new reviews in January than in the whole of 2007!

But my point of "quantity over quality" being the new dooyoo byword still stands.

So it would seem, but there have been some hints made that quality is going to be looked at so we will have to wait and see.

My reviews have stayed the same (about three a week) and my reads are up about 20% - consistently.

plipplop wrote:

My reviews have stayed the same (about three a week) and my reads are up about 20% - consistently.

That's because you're a good, high profile writer Phil, as well as being a Guide, and as you say post relatively few reviews. I could most likely maintain my old read rate as well, although, to be honest, I'm having too much fun posting my numerous "dumbed down and simplified" reviews to be ars*d.
At my current rate of posting I should have every box set I've ever fancied from Amazon within the year! That is if dooyoo don't change the current payment system or go bust first.

kenjohn wrote:

plipplop wrote:

My reviews have stayed the same (about three a week) and my reads are up about 20% - consistently.

That's because you're a good, high profile writer Phil, as well as being a Guide, and as you say post relatively few reviews. I could most likely maintain my old read rate as well, although, to be honest, I'm having too much fun posting my numerous "dumbed down and simplified" reviews to be ars*d.

Why, thank you!

The point is, though, if you stay doing what you always did, your reads are the same or higher - so it's not strictly true to say "reads are down"?

plipplop wrote:

Why, thank you!

The point is, though, if you stay doing what you always did, your reads are the same or higher - so it's not strictly true to say "reads are down"?

You're welcome

Not so sure Phil. I think it would probably take a lot more reading and rating (at least for me) to maintain my old read rate per review even if I was to revert to only posting the occasional review as in the past.

Reads are the same or marginally up for me, then again I struggle to post one review a week most of the time, last one got 70 odd reads but then it was a bit of Dooyoo naval gazing and they always get more reads.

Reads are up or the same. I think this is actually due to the infrequency with which a new review is posted though. Just a thought - could Ken's issue with lower reads be due to frequent poster apathy on behalf of other members? For instance, when faced with a barrage of new reviews by a writer in a few days, are members more likely to read the one new review from said writer (the one that appeals most), rather than all of them? I think this is a likely cause and is reflected in the lower reads being received by some and not by others...

I certainly wouldn't read more than on on a list of five from the same writer unless the topics looked amazingly interesting.

I've started trying to only read one review a day from each person unless it's someone that I know writes good reviews, is writing about something that interests me and reads and rates around the site on a regular basis. I'm starting to check the amounts of reviews people have read before reading more of their work these days.

My ratings are around the same despite a wee bit more posting this month over here due to me having some extra time on my hands, but of course that means I'm still down on what I used to get.

Well, my reads seem to be pretty much the same, if slightly lower, but I've been slightly more productive lately so that would probably account for it. Plus I've gotten really lazy with reads, so that's another reason, though I compensate with not posting reviews more often than I do. Add to that I probably should write the reviews too at some point... and I should get cracking with that unfinished fanfiction that's been sitting idle for a few weeks now. The computer can be such a slavedriver at times.

I'm finding my reads haven't really changed, but neither has the amount I post. At most I do on average 1 review per week (ignoring sabbaticals).

Unfortunately due to the number of reads, this means a net loss in money. And I haven't the desire or time to increase my output, and I wouldn't want quality to suffer from pushing myself.

If this new influx of members ever gets my reads high enough to match my old earnings it'd be nice. Not happened yet though. Good job I write more for fun than the reward, but it's still a shame.

Same as above, I haven't noticed much of a drop in reads/rates. I'm still posting as and when like before, but I am noticing more newbies signing up than ever before and just churning away. When will they ever understand that if they want reads, then they must read some reviews themselves. Lisa x

lisa2062 wrote:

Same as above, I haven't noticed much of a drop in reads/rates. I'm still posting as and when like before, but I am noticing more newbies signing up than ever before and just churning away. When will they ever understand that if they want reads, then they must read some reviews themselves. Lisa x

Yeah but you do not need reads if you get 500 miles for writing a few lines.

I'm almost jealous of churners and the lack of guilt they feel for not reading around - they must be earning a fortune!

I don't understand why people don't read what they want to read.

As the total number of reviews is up, and payments are up, then I would have to stagger a guess that reads are UP not down. Reads per review might be down for some, but then so what?

I do read what I want to read but some churners just post loads and never really read anybody else at all. They get 50p per review with no real effort back into teh site.

helencbradshaw wrote:

I don't understand why people don't read what they want to read.

As the total number of reviews is up, and payments are up, then I would have to stagger a guess that reads are UP not down. Reads per review might be down for some, but then so what?

Sorry, but that isn't the only logical conclusion. I'm also not sure what point you want to make?

The new system has been designed to get more content, members, and activity on the site. The magic number is 33 or approx £1. Any reads over 33 on a review earns less miles under the new system.

Total number of reviews are up. Payments only go up if you increase your overall reads, but anything over 33 per review earns less than it used to. More members may mean total reads are up, but spread out over more reviews. So members need to read more than they used to, to get other people's payments up.

Personally I prefer to have more people read something I've written, so I won't change my output to chase miles. It's fingers crossed that those new members all flock to my reviews, but with the added competition it's not happened yet.

I'm not bitter though - Dooyoo still beats all the other sites. I'm just gonna have to improve my writing, and choose popular topics.

My own personal reads are down, probably about 25% per review.

While money isn't a primary factor for me, I am disheartened by the fact that reads have gone down despite the fact that there are tonne of new members around the site.

I think we're all yet to be convinced that dooyoo still want to reward quality as well as quanitity. One of Jared's postings said that quality will be rewarded in phase 2 (if I remember correctly) but I'm wondering how long it will take.

We did remind him about that and he (re)assured us that it was still planned, but didn't give any ideas of how this might be achieved.