SPEAKERS CORNER.

I believe that the guides report, but that dooyoo have the final decision, but no doubt a guide can advise.

butters wrote:

steerpyke wrote:

Speakers Corner could be really interesting, but too many people are content to copy a couple of lines from The Sun which basically amounts to "the world isnt fair, but I can't be bothered to look into why?" and thinks that they have covered a debate. On Ciao you wouldnt be paid for such a review as the Cafe is unpaid but on dooyoo I really would expect more.

I agree, it could be interesting but some people do half-arsed reviews there. One on opinions isn't bad but Top Ten.... are boring-unless there are some different poeple in there etc and i only read them if they are in my COF. To be honest though-what could you change the writing system too?

I disagree. Good writing is good writing and a skilled writer can take a subject that you may not otherwise be interested in a make it, witty, entertaining, informative and interesting. Whilst the themes have a large impact on the type of writing even top ten topics can be made into an interesting read. I enjoy the speakers Corner stuff as it gives me a chance to write purely from my own mind rather than tailor my writing to a specific product.

If you just answer these discussion points with brief personal answers then the piece becomes a bit boring to the reader, but the art is to make the piece wider and make people think about their own views. Expand on the subject, if you are doing a top ten on music for example, say why the music/band makes your list but also explain how this music has affected your life and what it represents to you. Even the famous "whats in my bag" can be made interesting if you explain the history of the items you find within. I'm sure there's some interestiing stories behind some of those items.

Unfortunatly there has been a glut of poor postings, especially with the fairly unnessecary football postings which seemed to consist of sour graps and half baked theories which basically said "manager x" is rubbish" and "team Z will win" only to be contridicted in the writers next post because their theory crashed and burned.

To say get rid of the category because the writing is not up to scratch is like saying ban cricket because the team isnt playing well. The problem is not the category is it? Its the standard of writing and thats down to the poster.

I enjoy reading them, but agree that the rating system for such reviews needs to be altered. I do however feel, that for some reviewers it's just a place to churn out endless 5 line reviews just to get the reads. Lisa x

lisa2062 wrote:

I enjoy reading them, but agree that the rating system for such reviews needs to be altered. I do however feel, that for some reviewers it's just a place to churn out endless 5 line reviews just to get the reads. Lisa x

What if the word limit was raised, maybe to 250 words. that would make people have to really get into a subjet and do away with the "I think tax is wrong" type reviews and encourage more indepth writing. Just a thought.

Perhaps it could be suggested.

A word limit may work for some people, but others would then just waffle on and keep repeating themselves. Lisa x

But at least they would have to work harder for their 3p read LOL

Can they not take off the 3p per read & have 3p per U & VU? It would have more sense.

People went over this on the last forum. The amount of cost it takes to run an abuse system would be excessive, so dooyoo chose to do things the way they do, but those NU reviews are unlikely to get crowns so do earn less.

Thingywhatsit wrote:

People went over this on the last forum. The amount of cost it takes to run an abuse system would be excessive, so dooyoo chose to do things the way they do, but those NU reviews are unlikely to get crowns so do earn less.

Yes but there are thousands of reviews that get VU and very little of them get crowns so it doesn't pay off overall much of the time

butters wrote:

Yes but there are thousands of reviews that get VU and very little of them get crowns so it doesn't pay off overall much of the time

I completely agree.

Thingywhatsit wrote:

but those NU reviews are unlikely to get crowns so do earn less.

In Speakers Corner the crowns do not earn miles they are merely a nice to have form of recognition.

I was not aware of that. Thanks.

Does speakers corner in general get paid? I dont write ther often because iforgot. If it is, if payment stopped i think less people would write those awful 'Top Tens'

You get paid 3p per read just like every other category it is just the crowns that do not earn any miles.

If your still paid 3p a mile for those atrocious speakers corners reviews then Dooyoo seriously need to sort themselves out.

Most of these reviews are complete and utter crap. One member who writes in speakers corner reguarly must have made a fortune (dooyoo speaking) by writing such drivel!!!!! I mean recipies that are copied from books, jokes that are copied from the internet, favourite superhero????

Complete bollox if you ask me

I konw-but recipes can be useful though. Most of them are utter crao though so i think if its not helpful to someone-you dont get piad. The joke ones dont deserve to but they're still funny.

totally agree..favourite superhero is realy the all time low. I love writing SC articles but like to think I give people something to think about...some of this is just money for old rope and needs to be kicked into touch.

Articles that involve actual debates and discussions e.g. Banning Smoking, Fox hunting, Political situations are fine. They encourage people (well most of the time) to argue points, discuss ideas etc, and they can be deserving of payment.

Recipes - No
Superheros - No
Top Tens - No

Regardless as to whether something is funny or not, does not entitle it to payment. I have barely seen an original joke on either Ciao or Dooyoo and think its disgusting that people receive payment when they are effectively copying.

I have said jokes dont entitle payment but are still funny. I did say they dont entitle payment. I amnot bothered about recipe ones though.

The Top Tens are an annoyance and are clogging up the sites with the Top fives which is just a lazy persons top ten